Flight churn value

The Qantas American Express Ultimate Card

Ended — kept for reference

This page is my best effort to summarise the card's terms from the information I found. Read the bank's terms for full details, or contact the bank if you have questions.

I'd like to use my bonus for:

Can I get this?

This offer is advertised to the public. Bonus conditions and the bank’s approval requirements still apply.

Can I get this bonus if I have held a card before?

I have not checked the waiting period for this bonus.

See the waiting rules for every Australian bank →

What must I spend?

$3,000 within 90 days — about $1,000 per month.

Can I get the card?

I do not have a minimum income for this card.

Meeting the bonus rules does not mean the bank will approve your application. The bank must assess and approve the card separately.

How long is this available?

The listed end date has passed: 13 January 2026. Date comparison uses the Australia/Sydney calendar. The issuer’s closing time and timezone are not recorded. Check availability with the issuer.

What do the points buy?

It depends where you fly. From Sydney, 73,750 Qantas points buys:

TripPoints for 1 return tripYou can book
Sydney → Melbourne, Economy18,4004 return trips
Sydney → Bali, Economy46,6001 return trip, plus 1 one-way trip
Sydney → Singapore, Economy58,0001 return trip
Sydney → London, Business332,600Not yet — 22% of a return trip

Prices are Qantas Classic Flight Rewards for 1 person, if a reward seat is free. Airport taxes and fees are extra cash on top. Pick your own start city and trip below.

Sydney to London in Business (166,300 points)

Tap the trip above to pick your start city, where you want to go, and a seat class.

44% of one way trip

+ $450 qantas travel credit extra bonus
- $450
annual fee

Sydney to London (Business): One way flight is 166,300 Qantas points.

With 73,750 points = 0 return trip with 73,750 points remaining.

If you spend another $74,040 on the card, you can add another one way trip, zeroing out your point balance for this card.

20,000 Second Year Bonus

This card has a second year bonus of 20,000 and an annual fee of $450.

See Flights at Qantas

Should I keep it after the first year?

Keeping the card costs $450 each year ($450 annual fee) — the first year was $450.

The year-two bonus is 20,000 Qantas points.

Ongoing earn: 1.25x Qantas points per $1.

Keeping pays off only if you meet the second-year conditions and use the points and benefits enough to cover $450/yr.

The maths behind churn value

73,750 Qantas points at 1.6¢ a point − $450 in first-year fees. This is flight value, not cash. It assumes you earn the bonus and pay in full.

This offer has ended. I keep this page so you can check the old terms.

+70,000sign-up bonus
+3,750from $3,000 spend
=73,750Qantas points
×1.6¢per point
=$1,180value of the points
+$450cashback
−$450first-year fees
=$1,180churn value
What this calculation assumes
  • You make the required purchases and the bonus is paid.
  • You pay the balance in full — any interest changes the outcome.
  • The required spend is ordinary planned spending, not extra cost.
  • You close the card before the next annual fee, or you decide keeping it is worth that fee.

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Terms and evidence

Full current terms

Offer terms

PremiumOffer Ended

First Year Points

70,000 points

Qantas

Second Year Points

20,000 points

With $450 annual fee

Minimum Spend

$3,000

within 90 days (about 3 months)

Cash Bonus

$450Qantas Travel Credit

Offer Expires

January 13, 2026

9 months ago

Ongoing Earn Rate

1.25x points per $1 spent

Fees

First Year Annual Fee

$450

Ongoing Annual Fee

$450

From year 2 onwards

Purchase Interest Rate

23.99% p.a.

The value above assumes you pay in full and never pay this. Any interest changes the outcome.

Benefit history (5 changes)
  • Digital Wallet IntegrationUpdated May 2026
  • Purchase Protection InsuranceUpdated May 2026
  • Installment PlansUpdated May 2026
  • Travel InsuranceUpdated May 2026
  • Lounge AccessUpdated May 2026

    Now 4 visits/year · Qantas Club, The Centurion Lounge.

Offer terms history (13 versions — old terms, for checking)

These are published versions of this offer's terms. Each version preserves the conditions available at that time.

Published 13 Oct 2026

Changes from terms version 12

Bonus exclusion rule:
18 months. Card Members who currently hold or who have previously held any Card product issued by American Express Australia Limited in the past 18 months are ineligible for this offer. Covered card groups: American Express.

Published 3 Oct 2026

Ended 13 Oct 2026

Changes from terms version 11

Minimum Credit Limit:
$3,000
Lounge Pass:
Enjoy two complimentary entries to The Centurion® Lounge, plus two Qantas Club Lounge invitations each year after purchasing select Qantas products and servicesTwo Qantas Club complimentary lounge invitations each year after spending on selected Qantas products and services

Published 31 Jul 2026

Ended 3 Oct 2026

Changes from terms version 10

Bonus:
50,00070,000
Second Year Bonus:
050,000
Bonus Cash Description:
Qantas Travel CreditTravel Credit
Expiration Date:
28 July 202617 Nov 2026

Published 20 May 2026

Ended 31 Jul 2026

Changes from terms version 9

Second Year Bonus:
30,0000

Published 20 May 2026

Ended 20 May 2026

Changes from terms version 8

Bonus:
70,00050,000
Expiration Date:
5 May 202628 July 2026

Published 7 Feb 2026

Ended 20 May 2026

No recorded term changes from the previous version.

Published 2 Feb 2026

Ended 7 Feb 2026

Changes from terms version 6

Second Year Bonus:
20,00030,000
Spend For Bonus:
$3,000$5,000
Expiration Date:
13 Jan 20265 May 2026

Published 14 Jul 2025

Ended 7 Feb 2026

Changes from terms version 5

Bonus:
50,00070,000
Second Year Bonus:
020,000
Spend For Bonus:
$5,000$3,000
Expiration Date:
1 July 202513 Jan 2026
Lounge Pass:
Enjoy two complimentary entries to The Centurion® Lounge, plus two Qantas Club Lounge invitations each year after purchasing select Qantas products and services.Enjoy two complimentary entries to The Centurion® Lounge, plus two Qantas Club Lounge invitations each year after purchasing select Qantas products and services

Published 26 Jun 2025

Ended 14 Jul 2025

Changes from terms version 4

Minimum Credit Limit:
$15,000

Published 20 Mar 2025

Ended 26 Jun 2025

Changes from terms version 3

Bonus:
100,00050,000
Minimum Credit Limit:
$15,000
Interest Rate:
24.0023.99
Expiration Date:
18 Mar 20251 July 2025
Lounge Pass:
Enjoy two complimentary entries to The Centurion® Lounge7, plus two Qantas Club Lounge8 invitations each year after purchasing select Qantas products and servicesEnjoy two complimentary entries to The Centurion® Lounge, plus two Qantas Club Lounge invitations each year after purchasing select Qantas products and services.

Published 15 Jan 2025

Ended 20 Mar 2025

Changes from terms version 2

Bonus:
50,000100,000
Spend For Bonus:
$3,000$5,000
Bonus Cash Description:
Qantas Travel Credit via Amex TravelQantas Travel Credit
Expiration Date:
18 Mar 2025

Published 7 Sep 2024

Ended 15 Jan 2025

Changes from terms version 1

Bonus:
70,00050,000
Second Year Bonus:
20,0000
Expiration Date:
3 Sept 2024

Unknown publication date

Ended 7 Sep 2024

First recorded terms

Bonus Qantas:
70,000
Bonus Cash:
$450
Annual Fee:
$450
Minimum Spend:
$3,000 in 90 days
Lounge Pass:
Enjoy two complimentary entries to The Centurion® Lounge7, plus two Qantas Club Lounge8 invitations each year after purchasing select Qantas products and services
Source wording history

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Archived notes

Earlier notes about this offer, kept as an archive — not current terms. Note dates are separate from terms publication dates.

  • Expiration changed from 03/08/24 to 03/09/24
    2 years ago
  • Expiration changed from 28/05/24 to 03/08/24, Bonus from 60K to 70K, Second Year Bonus from 0 to 20K
    2 years ago
  • Expiration changed from 02/04/24 to 28/05/24, Bonus from 100K to 60K
    3 years ago
  • Bonus increased from 60k to 100k, Expiration changed from no expiration to 02/04/24 (thanks via Instagram!)
    3 years ago
  • Expiration changed from 31/10/23 to "", Bonus from 75000 to 60000, Bonus Period from 90 to 90
    3 years ago
  • Bonus points increased from 60,000 to 75,000
    3 years ago
  • Lowered bonus points to 60,000
    3 years ago
  • Bonus reduced from 75k to 50k
    4 years ago
  • Bonus decreased from 100k to 75k first year, 25k second year and expiration added 23/08/22
    4 years ago
  • Bonus decreased from 120k to 100k
    4 years ago
  • Bonus increased from 100k to 120k and extended to 27/04/22
    5 years ago
  • Bonus increased from 55,000 to 100,000
    5 years ago

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